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August 23, 2007

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Chris Alford

love it man...

Tina Willis

This is a great post. I've also heard of and been taught about the "American Dream". It aludes me, like the proverbial carrot at the end of a string, and no matter how hard I try and work and "live right" I am no closer than I was the year before...
I especially like where you said, "Do they need the churches full of folks who are taught to seek "the dream" and hold it up as God's favor?". These are bold words, but I was taught that if you "lived right" then you'd have God's favor and His favor closely resembles the "American Dream". How ironic...and if by chance you fell short of "the dream" then you must be in some kind of sin, because you weren't being blessed. It's not by works, but this is the state of mind that this kind of teaching puts people. At least it did me. Always feeling like you're not good enough because you aren't living "the dream".
What you said here really sums it all up, "Because see, to be reconciled with God means that not only are they safe and redeemed for eternity and have a home with God in the future, but they have a relationship with the Almighty. That means that no matter what tries to move into their lives RIGHT NOW and make them miserable, he has already overcome it." I agree with you brother! There's a real message for the church in this. I appreciate this post!

Rich

Thanks for the comments Chris and Tina! Always good to here from you Tina. And Chris, good hanging out again...

Jake

What I find kind of strange is that, even though the American Dream has crashed and burned, so many people around the world still yearn for it. Perhaps this is the result of their living conditions, cultural situations, and prompted by the false sense of reality that Hollywood puts forth (as a generality, I realize there is good stuff in the movies too). Good thoughts, Mr. Wagner.

Rebekah

The sad thing is that we worship this idol, The American Dream, so much that even if we know it's a farce we still pretend we're living it. Even if we know we don't really have it, we try to present to others around us that we are living this 'dream'. So, our life has the potential of being an endless cycle of seeking after this "perfection", and acting as though we have it even if we can't seem to grasp it.

What really bothers me is that the church has taken this on in so many ways with buildings, numbers, and presentation. The bigger, the better and more,more,more...the american dream, right? We've created an "americanized" version of christianity, and forgotten what biblical christianity looks like. Try and sell our "americanized" version of christianity to those christians underground in China, or christians in a third world country....they probably wouldn't recognize it as christianity at all.

The reason the "American Dream" is so dangerous is that it makes people think that if "they" work hard enough or do enough they will have it. Where does that leave our faith and what do we have to trust God for if we can do it all and achieve it all ourselves? We're left depending on ourselves which will most definately leave us with a mess and farther away from God and the truth in our lives. The root of indvidualism is pride, and God says he resists the proud. Self-reliance is not, or should not be, something that the children of God seek to have and display in life. In weakness there is strength, but not our strength, God's strength.

This is an awesome post! (sorry for the loooong comment)

Chris Alford

I thought God was supposed to give me the american dream and the american dream more abundantly if I go to church and apply the 7 steps to american happiness. lol

Your comments were right on Rev. Rebekah!

kristine

Great post Rich.
I'm right with you when it comes to seeking the lost, the abandoned, the misunderstood, the marginalized... This friend of mine from Brazil once said to me - "You Americans! Always hoping and lusting after this American Dream like it's a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow!" He found this to be what makes America the place where many want to be because of its neverending optimism and the way we all eat up those rags to riches stories. He also saw it as a place where one could experience great heartache, disappointment, and pain. As he spoke a certain bitterness emerged for from his perspective, I think he might have been trying to decide which was better - accepting one's station in life or longing for more...

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